Long form discussion

For a man who claims to be down the center, (Chris Lunsford) Oliver Anthony has talked with Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson but not Rachel Maddow or Andrea Mitchell.  That says something about where he thinks the political middle is.  Unfortunately where he seems to think the middle is, is where the middle used to be.  Nevertheless, this is not an attack on the man.  He is authentic, and he is talented and he is so far accurate in his lyrics. Here's a long form discussion between him and Jordan Peterson.